Skip to content

“Clean Meat”? – Two Animal Rights Advocates Say No

March 26, 2018

Source United Poultry Concerns

Why “growing meat without animals” is NOT a solution: two views

On Jan. 10, we published “Slaughter-Free Flesh for Humanity” which drew fire from some animal rights advocates including Joan Harrison, whose letter, “When Even ‘Clean Meat’ Isn’t Clean Enough,” appeared in The Wall Street Journal, January 13, 2018, as follows:

Regarding Matthew Scully’s review of Paul Shapiro’s “Clean Meat” (Books, Jan. 6): I’m afraid I cannot agree with my fellow activists’ enthusiasm about so-called clean meat. The new technology may relieve animal suffering to some extent in the short term by using donor herds, which would suffer and be enslaved to provide cells out of which meat is then laboratory grown. Though this may end factory farming, which would be a blessing, it will do nothing to end the public’s identification of animals with food. Indeed, it will likely confirm this.

The object is not to end factory farming; the object is to end animal farming as such. The promoting of meat of this sort is thus a pernicious undermining of animal liberation. According to psychology professor and animal activist Bill Crain, experiments show that people eating the flesh of animals generally perceive animals in a negative light in contrast to people who don’t. Is this something we really wish to encourage? What about flesh emerging from a bioreactor? Why not promote Monsanto’s GMOs? And what about developing meat from human cells? If the latter is repulsive to you, and clean meat from cows, pigs, chickens and lambs nevertheless seems okay, you are still under the sway of speciesism, the evils of which are well known. A simpler solution is available, though it’ll take some time, one that is consistent with and would facilitate the liberating of animals both nonhuman and human: adopting a plant-based diet. It’s already happening.

Joan Harrison
New York

On Jan. 25, UPC President Karen Davis asked Philosophy Professor, John Sanbonmatsu – who (spoke) at our March 10, 2018 Conscious Eating Conference in Berkeley, CA – what he thinks of “clean meat.” He wrote back:


RE: “Clean Meat,” I think it is folly, for several reasons:

I think too many vegans are thinking of this as the Holy Grail, which may subtly be taking pressure and urgency off of other modes of action and analysis.

The framing of the discourse as “clean” vs. “unclean” meat aestheticizes meat, which is already an aestheticized commodity. The reality is, one form of “meat” is based on genocidal violence, exploitation, and injustice, and the other isn’t. So it should be framed as a choice between violence and nonviolence, not “cleanliness” in either an aesthetic or “morally virtuous” sense (as in, I have a “clean conscience”). One of the cafes here in Cambridge [MA] is called “Clear Conscience Cafe,” and naturally they serve grassfed Angus beef, etc.

I think it’s a terrible mistake to confuse the issue in consumers’ already confused minds between “good” and “bad” forms of animal products. I was in NYC over the weekend, and one of the grocery stores had organic turkey and pig sausages literally mixed in with the vegan “meat” products. So the messaging is, “This is where you get the ‘alternative’ and ‘healthy’ stuff, take your pick.” The last thing we need is to have ontological meat (i.e. flesh) being sold to consumers as more “ethical” meat.

Most higher-end consumers will continue to choose “organic” and “local” animal flesh over synthetic, lab-grown meats. Why? Because they are figured as “authentic.” Michael Pollan sneers when the topic of syn-meat comes up: like, who would want THAT? Just think about how educated Americans have been steering away from “processed” and “artificial” foods for a generation. And now we want them to eat burgers made with lab-grown cow cells? No way. The meat industry will turn right around and promote authentic meat even more heavily than they do now.

The whole synthetic meat movement is perpetuating the lie that the only reason, or main reason, we can’t have universal veganism and an end to animal agriculture is because there are no “good” alternatives. That, and the lie that the reason people “can’t” (or won’t) give up eating animals is because animals just taste TOO GOOD. Well, I don’t believe that. Yes, there are undoubtedly some people so hooked on the exact specific taste of bacon or whatever that they will cling to it until Doomsday. But I don’t think that accounts for most or even a big part of resistance to Animal Rights or to veganism specifically.

What’s going to happen with this stuff is precisely what happened to Whole Foods and the whole “humane meat” industry: synthetic meats will not be competing with cheaper meat commodities; this industry will be competing with the chi-chi market for specialized foods. So the price point is going to be set high, because that’s where the market is going to be most lucrative (because this is capitalism). Meanwhile, as I said, if the typical consumer is faced with a menu of “real” chicken and “synthetic real” chicken, he/she is going to choose the real chicken most of the time, or so I believe.

If humans think so little of the dignity or suffering of animals that they can’t or won’t countenance giving up farmed animal flesh until and unless there is an exact, one-to-one replacement, in taste, texture, availability, etc., then what are the odds that they will make any concerted effort to switch to synthetic meats at all?

Against the odds, somehow, we need to smash speciesism as an idea and a set of institutions and beliefs and interpellated identities. If we don’t challenge that, if we can’t undermine it, I think it’s going to continue to be game over for animals, and all of the synthetic meats in the world won’t amount to anything.

John Sanbonmatsu, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Philosophy
Department of Humanities and Arts
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester, MA 01609

there needs to be
and this cannot wait
an absence of ALL
animal products
on our plates!!!

Karen Lyons Kalmenson


5 Comments leave one →
  1. March 26, 2018 9:17 am

    I am currently reading several books on the subject, ‘Clean Meat’ being one of them. If you haven’t already, I urge you to read it.

    I too am conflicted as this continues speciesism in its current form (albeit in a drastically lower fashion). I personally don’t believe that masses of Homo Sapiens will ever come to think of themselves as animals, our place on the planet as such, so meat-eaters we’ll be.

    We should rethink the name of our species to anything but ‘wise,’ but in the meantime I will be following this technology closely — as a plant-eating vegan.

    Any upset of animal agriculture in its current form is fine by me. Baby steps.

    Liked by 2 people

    • March 26, 2018 12:55 pm

      I absolutely understand the allure but cannot agree with the continued emphasis on the commodification of animals, which does nothing to alter the negative perception human animals have of non-human animals even marginally (in numbers, for certain, but not in view). This is a classic welfarist approach, and as an abolitionist, one that I cannot support.

      I have to agree with the two ARs above, as both having sound emotional and rational arguments.

      Nevertheless, I completely agree that it is a tempting temporary improvement, but an improvement in a speciest approach will never result in total liberation. Never. It is a slippery slope that can always revert into a backward slide based on profit and demand. Indeed, equality for a few is not equality at all.

      I appreciate your thoughts, especially your final one. Thanks, Shannon.

      Liked by 1 person

  2. karen lyons kalmenson permalink
    March 26, 2018 2:37 pm

    there needs to be
    and this cannot wait
    an absence of ALL
    animal products
    on our plates!!!

    Liked by 2 people

  3. March 26, 2018 6:13 pm

    Perfect, thank you so much, my dear, I love it.

    Liked by 1 person

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

World Animals Voice

Animal news from around the world.

Yolanda and her creative scream

Aspergers syndrome, bipolarity, photography, art, poetry.

Once Upon An Activist

Every so often, you will get to tell someone your stories, and it will become a part of their awakening

Barbara Crane Navarro

Rainforest Art Project - Pas de Cartier !


creative design center



M4nic Digression

Bipolar, bisexual and vegan. Blogging for myself. Currently stable...ish. A blog that critics are describing as "all over the place" and "lousy with errors".

Aloe Veritas

Arts and Letters of the Earth

Cosmic Skeptic

Question Everything

Striking at the Roots

Animal activism around the world



The Bruges Vegan

more than waffles and chocolate

DirtNKids Blog

Soil, Kids, Vegan -- Connected Through Nature

Amici del Lupo - Svizzera italiana

per sensibilizzare e farlo conoscere...

Animalista Untamed

The only good cage is an empty cage

Jet Eliot

Travel and Wildlife Adventures

Organic Opinion

Finding it, aye there's the rub~

Flawless Pandemonium

Question everything~

%d bloggers like this: